Matt Smith, Former Chief Learning Officer, McKinsey & Company

Matt Smith is an Executive Coach, Leadership Advisory, and former Chief Learning Officer at McKinsey & Company. Speaking to iVentiv's Temi B, Matt discussed the habits that make a successful learner, techniques for developing intentional learning, plus ideas to help CLOs work with business leaders. For Chief Learning Officers, these are perennial questions, but Matt says they are tractable ones as well. 

How do you develop a culture of intentional learning?

Talking about intentional learning, Matt says that learning executives, CLOs, and learning leaders across the board are trying to create "a culture where people take advantage of the learning opportunities that are available to them." In short, he says, learners have to be "hungry for it". Based on his work, Matt believes that "it's one thing to have access to learning opportunities and hopefully they're high quality, but you actually need to foster the skills and mindsets of how to be an effective learner."

But there are things that effective learners do that most others don't. The small habits, every day, that put them in a position to learn well. "There are ways that they go about their day, go about their work, that maximize the amount of learning that they pull out of all of the opportunities they have and maximize the excitement they get from the learning that they do. And so we started looking into what are those elements? What do the best learners do? What can we learn from them? And then how do you actually start creating an organisational context where these things are fostered and promoted?"

What does it mean to have a curious mindset?

One of the first things that effective, intentional learners have is a curious mindset. "I think that, to me, curiosity is all about a desire to learn more about things," Matt says. What are people thinking? What's happening? Why does someone have a different approach to this problem than you? Curiosity isn't something you have or you don't have, he says, it's something you can practice and foster.

"You can always keep getting more and more curious about things in life." With curiosity goes a growth mindset, a desire to grow and a genuine belief that you can grow. "If you believe that you can learn and you believe that learning is exciting and something you want to do and you're motivated to do then you're going to put more energy and intention into your own learning."

What are the core habits of effective learners?

 
"There are a few core habits that people who are effective learners put into place and I would say many of us probably do some of these things," but Matt adds that "we may not realise that they are what makes us effective as learners, we may just do them naturally." But the effective learners do these things habitually.

"Number one," Matt explains, "people set clear learning goals for themselves."  As a mental benchmark Matt recommends setting goals over a three-month period. Focus on specific areas of your own development, separate to the business goals and metrics that you need to hit. What are you trying to learn? Is that clear? Are those goals discreet enough and clear enough for you to assess whether or not you're making progress? Then, go over those goals over and over and over again.

Then, get feedback. "Not just being open to feedback, but actively seeking out feedback and helping other people give you better feedback by priming them with your learning goals." If you tell people what you're working on, they can give clearer and more focused feedback.

None of this is rocket science. "They're not that hard to build into your day-to-day, but very few people do them all consistently because they do take some effort and intention to put into place."

How do you cultivate effective learning habits on an organisational scale?

There are a few things that CLOs can do, Matt explains. The first is very simple. Teach your people how to learn. "We teach so many things in our organisations but very few organisations actually help people become better learners and teach these types of basic practices." Put it in onboarding, in basic manager training, at all the "pivotal moments in someone's career."

Secondly, CLOs have to be role models. "What does it mean to approach questions with a beginner's mind? How can leaders talk about what they're learning, what they're seeing?" Matt talks about Satya Nadella's approach at Microsoft, going "from a know-it-all culture to a learn-it-all culture." You don't always need the answers to everything, but "if you approach everything with a learning mindset, the company is going to be so much more innovative and it's going to be more exciting for individuals."

More than that, encourage learning at all levels. "So in those moments of truth where someone wants to, for example, invest in their own learning, how is that handled? Is there pushback? Do people encourage it or not? So there's something in addition to the skills of effective learning." Managers and leaders have to encourage and celebrate learning.

How do you develop leaders who are role models for your learning culture?

It's hard to push anything through if an organisation doesn't want it, Matt reflects, and not just in a learning context. If leadership isn't behind the change, then you have to tackle the problem. But more often, he says, the problem is that people are "well-intended but unskilled." That problem, he says, is one that you can do something about.

In that scenario, ask yourself what you can do to help develop leaders with skills of inquiry and curiosity. Leaders who try to understand and try to help people understand, rather than coming in with a predetermined set of answers. "These are things that we can actually develop in leaders, and those of us who are CLOs and are looking after this sort of thing can help our leaders develop."

But you can also develop the skills of being an effective learner from the bottom up. "It's obviously ideal if you've got everyone on board and it's being pushed by leadership, but some of these skills that we're talking about, frankly, they just make people better at their job." Matt says you need to encourage your people to squeeze "the most juice out of every moment that they have, developing faster, learning new things faster." Do that often enough and you will start to see results, "even if you don't have the same level of senior sponsorship that we all know would be ideal."

Matt will be joining iVentiv again as the Chair of Learning Futures Copenhagen, 10-11 May 2022. Find out more here.

Matthew Smith, former Chief Learning Officer of McKinsey & Company, has played a dynamic role as Session Facilitator at several in-person and virtual iVentiv events in recent years. At McKinsey, Matt was responsible for the strategy and execution of leadership development programs for over 30,000 colleagues globally, and led a major transformation of the L&D function. Prior to his role as Chief Learning Officer, Matt served as McKinsey’s global Chief of Staff and was a client-serving Partner leading the Pharmaceutical Organization practice globally. He also spent three years as a member of the firm’s Partner Election Committee.

Matt currently serves as an executive coach and leadership advisor to senior leaders, and as faculty for leadership development programs with both McKinsey and Mobius Executive Leadership. He has also authored several articles on learning and talent topics, with a focus on identifying the mindsets and habits of the most effective learners.
 

More Insights

In a world grappling with unprecedented change and challenges, the importance of building a skilled workforce is high up on the CLO agenda. Recently, we sat down with Simon Gibson, the Group Head of Learning and Development at Marks and Spencer (M&S), to delve into the heart of what defines a skilled workforce, not just for M&S but for the broader business landscape. Read more and watch the full interview here.

Artificial Intelligence (AI) has emerged as a powerful force reshaping industries and revolutionising various aspects of our lives. One of the areas where AI is making a significant impact is Learning and Development (L&D).

In this blog, we will explore the nature of AI in Learning and Development initiatives, the key concepts surrounding it, and the challenges L&D leaders are raising when it comes to implementation. Read the full blog here.

In this interview with Jen McCartney, Director of Diversity, Inclusion, Equity and Belonging at PayPal, Jen talked about defining, unpacking and addressing unconscious biases in leadership practices. We asked her about how PayPal have approached the topic of unconscious bias in their workforce, and the importance of managers and leaders in identifying their own unconscious biases. Based on her extensive experience in this area, Jen advises on how to tackle unconscious bias at an organisational level, and reveals the things she would do differently if she were to start her journey over. Read more and watch the full interview here.

From CEO & Founder Russell Butler's garage in 2008, to an international series of events today, iVentiv has now been fostering interactive, collaborative spaces for L&D leaders for over 15 years. Our recent 250th Executive Knowledge Exchange at Learning Futures California, held at the scenic Visa University in Foster City, was no exception.

Read more about iVentiv's rich event history as well as key takeaways and feedback from it's 250th event in California here.

Community is an important value and one worth celebrating, irrespective of its business application. iVentiv has always provided you with a forum in which a real community can grow and genuine connections can be made.

For this blog, we spoke to one of iVentiv's most long-standing friends: Simon Brown, Chief Learning officer at Novartis. Simon has invited the iVentiv community to the Novartis HQ on several occasions to share ideas, learn from one another, and unite around common causes.Community goes well beyond L&D, however, and on this occasion, we wanted to connect with Simon on his commitment to another cause: helping those suffering from Alzheimer's. Read more here.

How can Learning and Development leaders play their part in tackling climate change? Speaking to iVentiv, Evgeny Lukin, Head of Learning and Development at JLL (Jones Lang LaSalle), shared some of the steps that he and his team have taken in partnership with the business to help reduce the company's carbon footprint and that of its clients. Watch the full interview and read more here.

In the midst of big change, chip shortages, and a rapidly growing workforce, Laureen Rwatirera (Chief Learning Officer) and Ronald Plantinga (Senior Change Manager, Learning & Knowledge Management) spoke to iVentiv's Richard Parfitt about what ASML's L&D team are doing to develop their workforce's adaptability and competence.

Over the last few years, ASML's workforce has grown rapidly, from 14,000 in 2014 to over 40,000 today. In this video, dive into conversations with key change makers at the 'most important company you've never heard of'. Learn about the company's change management mindset, hear about their crucial innovations for continued growth, leadership development initiatives, and key tips for navigating a dynamic and ever-growing industry landscape. Watch the full interview and read more here.

At the end of 2022, the iVentiv Pulse tracking report showed that leadership development was the single biggest priority for Global Heads of Learning and Talent. The report draws on questionnaires sent to Chief Learning Officers and Heads of Talent Management, where participants were asked to identify their key goals and challenges.

In this blog, we ask how much that has changed so far in 2023 and look at the key themes shaping the world of L&D and Talent Management. Read more here.

In an iVentiv exclusive talk with Deniz Kayadelen, Head of Talent Management Consulting at EY, and Piers Martin, Head of Leadership and Academy Workforce Development at The Premier League, Marketing Manager Richard Parfitt asks: what lessons can Learning and Talent functions learn from sport?

Here, we delve into topics such as DEI, resilience, psychology, and wellbeing initiatives that are crucial factors in developing strong leaders. We also talk about the receptiveness of leaders in HR to adopt ideas from sport psychology, and which sports personality would make the best leader in business. Watch the full interview and read more here.

The challenge of demonstrating the business value and ROI of L&D teams is a persistent issue for many companies. Despite the potential for learning to make a significant contribution to the business, it can be difficult to convince CEOs and other senior leaders of its value.

In this blog, we will explore the key questions that CLOs are asking when it comes to demonstrating the business value and ROI of their L&D teams and outline some of the solutions organisations have tried so far to evaluate their effectiveness. Read more here

Pages